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		<title>By: anika001</title>
		<link>http://shivanata.com/blog/ask/finding-the-challenge-again/comment-page-1/#comment-2572</link>
		<dc:creator>anika001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First I’m doing the level 1 horizontal arms, although with a twist!  Completely unedited, as a result you get to watch me fight back and even skip when I get interrupted.</description>
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		<title>By: Perfectionism scramble (with a side order paradox)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perfectionism scramble (with a side order paradox)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not alone. I&#8217;m pretty obsessed with learning more about how it works. I was reading an old blog post about finding the challenge (remember, the challenge is key) and I read this bit that triggered a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] not alone. I&#8217;m pretty obsessed with learning more about how it works. I was reading an old blog post about finding the challenge (remember, the challenge is key) and I read this bit that triggered a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sonia Simone</title>
		<link>http://shivanata.com/blog/ask/finding-the-challenge-again/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonia Simone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 03:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Discovered a good one today--doing L1H arms on the ellipse machine. (Don&#039;t even think about it if you don&#039;t have perfect balance on the machine, which I do, having logged one skillion miles on the damned thing.) I also reverse the direction my legs go every two minutes, which added a good twist.

Can&#039;t do the vertical arms, unfortunately, as the control panel thingy is in the way.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Sonia Simones last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/TheRemarkableCommunicationBlog/~3/458990643/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How to Survive the End of the World&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Discovered a good one today&#8211;doing L1H arms on the ellipse machine. (Don&#8217;t even think about it if you don&#8217;t have perfect balance on the machine, which I do, having logged one skillion miles on the damned thing.) I also reverse the direction my legs go every two minutes, which added a good twist.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t do the vertical arms, unfortunately, as the control panel thingy is in the way.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Sonia Simones last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/TheRemarkableCommunicationBlog/~3/458990643/" rel="nofollow">How to Survive the End of the World</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Sonia Simone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonia Simone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, this is very helpful! I am just where Jennifer is in terms of being between levels, definitely not mastering anything but nonetheless feeling a little bored. 

I will try calling out the numbers, I bet that would be good.

I&#039;ve tried a couple of things that seemed helpful:

* I do the fast H &amp; V arms, but I slow the DVD down. On my player, anyway, it&#039;s faster than the regular slow version. At this point that&#039;s become relatively easy for me, but for awhile it was just right. (My attempt at the regular full-on fast is pretty dorky, but hey, at least it&#039;s over with quickly. I will do some more of that.) Where I am now, this is a nice warm-up.

* I skipped ahead to start Level 2 and I&#039;ll do that for a five-minute injection of hard stuff, then I go back to Level 1. The spiral movements of each arm are getting more automatic for me, though, so it&#039;s not as brain-frying as I would like. Not that I can do it, but each arm is &quot;learning&quot; what tends to come next so it&#039;s smoothing out. I will try the 2nd level transqarters as the fiendish Havi suggests.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, this is very helpful! I am just where Jennifer is in terms of being between levels, definitely not mastering anything but nonetheless feeling a little bored. </p>
<p>I will try calling out the numbers, I bet that would be good.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried a couple of things that seemed helpful:</p>
<p>* I do the fast H &amp; V arms, but I slow the DVD down. On my player, anyway, it&#8217;s faster than the regular slow version. At this point that&#8217;s become relatively easy for me, but for awhile it was just right. (My attempt at the regular full-on fast is pretty dorky, but hey, at least it&#8217;s over with quickly. I will do some more of that.) Where I am now, this is a nice warm-up.</p>
<p>* I skipped ahead to start Level 2 and I&#8217;ll do that for a five-minute injection of hard stuff, then I go back to Level 1. The spiral movements of each arm are getting more automatic for me, though, so it&#8217;s not as brain-frying as I would like. Not that I can do it, but each arm is &#8220;learning&#8221; what tends to come next so it&#8217;s smoothing out. I will try the 2nd level transqarters as the fiendish Havi suggests.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Sonia Simones last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/TheRemarkableCommunicationBlog/~3/458990643/" rel="nofollow">How to Survive the End of the World</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Louden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Louden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 01:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Lisa, let me clarify that on the fast H arms I flail more than I flow and on the fast V arms? It&#039;s amazing I don&#039;t give myself a friggin bloody nose.  My two little dogs flee the room.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jennifer Loudens last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/LoudenMouth/~3/446821349/comfort-during-fearful-times-acedia-and-me&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Comfort During Fearful Times: Acedia and Me&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Lisa, let me clarify that on the fast H arms I flail more than I flow and on the fast V arms? It&#8217;s amazing I don&#8217;t give myself a friggin bloody nose.  My two little dogs flee the room.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Jennifer Loudens last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/LoudenMouth/~3/446821349/comfort-during-fearful-times-acedia-and-me" rel="nofollow">Comfort During Fearful Times: Acedia and Me</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s crazy how this question is almost exactly the one I&#039;ve been trying to figure out how to ask you for about a week and didn&#039;t quite know how to phrase (hmm . . . could my pattern be perfectionism? Nah, not a chance.). The only difference really between this question and the one I was trying to ask is that Jennifer has been doing this for longer than me and so is farther on in the levels. But I am to that place where I can keep up with Andrey on the H and V slow, as well as the transitions and transquarters, but then I move on to H fast and WHOA! I can&#039;t keep up at all. 

Andrey says before the fast H arms that it is just a demo and I&#039;m not supposed to keep up. So I was wondering what I should be doing next if not speeding it up. Now I have some great ideas for half steps--no sound, trying to call out the numbers, etc. 

And, just for the record, I keep trying to do the arms fast and I can do just a tiny bit more each time before I get completely and utterly lost.

Thanks for the perfect timing Havi and Jennifer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s crazy how this question is almost exactly the one I&#8217;ve been trying to figure out how to ask you for about a week and didn&#8217;t quite know how to phrase (hmm . . . could my pattern be perfectionism? Nah, not a chance.). The only difference really between this question and the one I was trying to ask is that Jennifer has been doing this for longer than me and so is farther on in the levels. But I am to that place where I can keep up with Andrey on the H and V slow, as well as the transitions and transquarters, but then I move on to H fast and WHOA! I can&#8217;t keep up at all. </p>
<p>Andrey says before the fast H arms that it is just a demo and I&#8217;m not supposed to keep up. So I was wondering what I should be doing next if not speeding it up. Now I have some great ideas for half steps&#8211;no sound, trying to call out the numbers, etc. </p>
<p>And, just for the record, I keep trying to do the arms fast and I can do just a tiny bit more each time before I get completely and utterly lost.</p>
<p>Thanks for the perfect timing Havi and Jennifer!</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Louden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Louden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Havi, big hugs for all the PERFECTO advice and I feel very clear now which is THE PATTERN or at least one- need to be clear. HUGE pattern for me. Need clarity as in &quot;not trusting myself.&quot;  So I will work on that pattern YET AGAIN and of course, for the rest of my life, and in front of the TV with Andrey friggin Lappa for the foreseeable friggin future.

And shiva writers, come to the retreat, it really is going to be awesome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Havi, big hugs for all the PERFECTO advice and I feel very clear now which is THE PATTERN or at least one- need to be clear. HUGE pattern for me. Need clarity as in &#8220;not trusting myself.&#8221;  So I will work on that pattern YET AGAIN and of course, for the rest of my life, and in front of the TV with Andrey friggin Lappa for the foreseeable friggin future.</p>
<p>And shiva writers, come to the retreat, it really is going to be awesome!</p>
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		<title>By: Eveline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eveline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 14:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yay and hugs for Jen for asking the question! And yay for Havi for great answers - because I am so totally in the same spot as Jen and its a relief to know that&#039;s right where I am supposed to be!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Evelines last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://ebenezerscribe.blogspot.com/2008/11/we-interrupt-this-month.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;We interrupt this month......&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yay and hugs for Jen for asking the question! And yay for Havi for great answers &#8211; because I am so totally in the same spot as Jen and its a relief to know that&#8217;s right where I am supposed to be!</p>
<p><abbr><em>Evelines last blog post..<a href="http://ebenezerscribe.blogspot.com/2008/11/we-interrupt-this-month.html" rel="nofollow">We interrupt this month&#8230;&#8230;</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Video: Level 1 arms as colours &#124; Adventures of a Shivanaut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Video: Level 1 arms as colours &#124; Adventures of a Shivanaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 02:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] one is of me doing the level 1 horizontal arms, but with a twist!  Totally unedited, so you get to watch me struggle and gurn and even jump when I get interrupted [...]</description>
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